Review: Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro (Prerelease)


A few weeks ago, we broke the news that the Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro had arrived in Minnesota at BURN Premium Cigar Specialists and Tobacco Grove. Tomorrow (March 5, 2012), pre-orders will ship from both stores, both of whom still have a limited supply in stock. Rather than rewriting history, here’s what we wrote a few weeks ago:

The Samurai is the limited edition Corona Gorda size of the Platino blend that was first released in 2010 and then released again in January of this year. (We have reviewed both the 2010 version and the 2012 version.) Both times, the cigar has been released to both BURN and its sister store Tobacco Grove.

This is the first time that Viaje has released a cigar that they specifically designated as a Maduro, choosing a San Andrés wrapper, also an extreme departure from Viaje’s consistent record of Nicaraguan puros. (The 2011 version of the Satori also used a San Andrés wrapper.)

Outside of the wrapper change, the Platino Samurai Maduro mimics the January release: 99 boxes of 25, $8.50 per single, $212.50 per box for out of state customers.

Only 50 of the 99 boxes will be offered for out of state customers, with 25 going to BURN and 25 going to Tobacco Grove. The remainder will be sold to in store customers.

Pre-orders will begin on Monday February 27, 2012 and the boxes will ship a week later on March 5, 2012.

Both BURN (952.808.9259) and Tobacco Grove (763.494.6688) will be taking pre-orders via phone, and the latter will also offer boxes online.

 

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The boxes of the Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro are identical to the Viaje Platino Samurai 2012, except for the Maduro sticker on the side as shown below:

Viaje Samurai Maduro 2

(image via James Succio/Burn Premium Cigar Specialists)

 

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Here’s a picture of all there Viaje Samurais:

Viaje Platino Samurai

In order of appearance:

 

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And the particulars. Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro 1

  • Name: Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro
  • Country of Origin: Honduras
  • Factory: Fábrica de Tabacos Raíces Cubanas S. de R.L. (Raíces Cubanas)
  • Wrapper: San Andrés (Mexico)
  • Binder: Nicaraguan
  • Filler: Nicaraguan
  • Size: 6 Inches
  • Ring Gauge: 48
  • Vitola: Corona Gorda
  • MSRP: $8.50 (Boxes of 25, $212.50)*
  • Release Date: March 5, 2012
  • Number of Cigars Released: 99 Boxes of 25 Cigars (2,475 Total Cigars)
  • Number of Cigars Smoked for Review: 3

It’s dark. The picture against the boxes may make the Samurai Maduro look a bit darker than it actually is, but it still is remarkably black with a decent amount of purple hue. There’s a bit of cracking and the typical discoloration on the dark San Andrés, it’s pretty reminiscent of another San Andrés to come out of Raíces, the Illusione ~hl~ Maduro. Aroma from the wrapper of the Samurai Maduro has a sweetness to it, but there’s also a lot of barnyard that is a bit more dominant. There’s a nauseating white pepper on the cold draw with a lot of sweet cocoa and a bit of dry oak note. The Samurai Maduro is somewhere between medium-full and full, classic Raíces all the way.

 

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Lighting up the first third produces a rather toasty aroma. The first draw of the Viaje Samurai Maduro starts with a great sweetness, cedar, nuts, earth and then some cocoa. About 30 seconds in there’s a black pepper that develops, although initially it remains rather light. As the Corona Gorda gets into action, flavor profile develops into a bittersweet wood, lots of earth and a dominating black pepper. It’s not the typical Maduro profile, not the typical Viaje profile. Smoke production and draw are both great, burn line is inconsistent, although never perfect despite my careful lighting technique. Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro 2 The second third of the Samurai Maduro sees a sweetness amp up and then quickly fall apart. Midway through, the woodsy note is the dominant profile along with some green licorice and meatiness on the finish. The black pepper remains and doesn’t lose any strength, although it is much smoother than the first third. Unfortunately, towards the end of the second third, the draw opens up a bit more than I would have liked. Strength is medium-full to full, noticeably heavier than the Samurais I’ve had. Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro 3 Into the final third and a bit more sweetness emerges. The dark chocolate that was noticeable in the first third comes back, although the earth and black pepper are really the dominant notes. It continues to be full, but the Samurai Maduro still is a bit stagnant in terms of development. As I near the final inch, constant touch-ups remain. Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro 4

 

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Final Notes:

  • For whatever reason, it seems like every box of Samurais I’ve seen has one or two that have wrappers beat up from what it seems like is the ribbon.
  • The contrast between the wrapper and the bands is great.
  • These cigars were originally supposed to be made for BURN Premium Cigar Specialist’s fifth anniversary, which won’t take place for a few months.
  • This is the fourth Viaje released in the past two weeks. As I mentioned in the Super Shot 10 review, I don’t understand why Andre Farkas & co. continue to release cigars in clusters. If you were to buy one box of all the Viajes released in the past ten days, it would set you back over $800.00.
  • For those that want to make questions about the legitimacy of the color of the wrapper, remember, the San Andrés ~hl~ Maduro looks identical. For the record, no signs to suggest any cooking/dying. My hands were spotless each and every time I smoked it.
  • I wouldn’t say this is wet, although Tobacco Grove shipped these in a bag with a huge 65% Boveda in order to stabilize the humidity. However, the consistent burn line issues with Viaje has gotten to be annoying. It’s beyond a cosmetic thing at this point, leave it alone and one half of the cigar will be an inch further down than the other pretty quickly. On the second and third examples I smoked, I spent a long time making sure that the Viaje Samurai Maduro was lit evenly and started off burning evenly, it really didn’t matter much.
  • As with the other releases that have gone to the Minnesota stores, because of the high tobacco tax in the state, out of state purchases are significantly cheaper than purchasing in store.
  • Smoke production and draw were quite good. At times, the latter was a bit loose, but by in large this portion of the construction category was solid for the Viaje Samurai Maduro.
  • This is the second store exclusive for BURN Premium Cigar Specialist/Tobacco Grove, who are sister stores, this year. It’s also the third in the past year with the Viaje Zombie coming out last spring.
  • Strength is a bit south of full, body is similar and flavor is right in the full category. It seems a bit heavier than the typical Viaje Samurai.
  • Final smoking time was on average 1 hour 45 minutes.
  • If you are interested in purchasing the Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro, both BURN (952.808.9259) and site Tobacco Grove (763.494.6688) will be taking pre-orders via phone and you can order from Tobacco Grove here.

 

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The Bottom Line: Much like Brooks’ thoughts on the Viaje Samurai (2012), this cigar had a decent flavor profile that didn’t do a whole lot of developing. It wasn’t flat out boring, but it also left a decent amount to be desired. Easiest way to describe this: a beefed up version of the Viaje Samurai. The sourness and black pepper both seemed to have transitioned over, although the dominating earth note seems like a new feature. Overall, I had a lot of hopes from the Mexican wrapper, but the sweetness I had hoped for just wasn’t anywhere to be found in the Viaje Platino Samurai Maduro.

Final Score: 85

31 comments
DTal
DTal

If you have any on hand, you should take another look at this cigar.  I just smoked one last night, and really enjoyed it.  The burn line was nearly perfect.  Didn't require any touch-ups.  The sweetness you were looking for was there throughout the smoke.  I'd describe the flavor profile as a sweet mineral earthiness, with hints of chocolate that would pop up here and there.  You might consider it boring, b/c there wasn't a lot of change or development in the flavor, but I didn't mind it, b/c the flavor was delicious.

bwgan
bwgan

Bad burners are a pain, this borders into the unsmokeable??  Nice honest review wit cracking photos as always

Bradley Bowman
Bradley Bowman

Hi Charlie-  What percentage of the burning problems would you attribute by your outdoor setting during reviews? Just know wind, temp, etc. can have a strong impact and potentially sku your results.

Charlie Minato
Charlie Minato moderator

@Bradley Bowman

This sounds a lot snarkier than it is meant, it's also a lot longer than it needs to be to address a few questions that could come out of this.

 

It's something I've thought about a bit, but less and less as time goes on. The reality is 7/10 cigars we review on this site burn fine, some burn perfect, other's don't, but in terms of consistently burning incorrectly, the recent releases from Viaje are king. There are tons of things that affect the cigar burning straight that have zero to do with the outdoor setting (rate, lighting, how you hold the cigar), but that's not really the point.

 

At the end of the day, cigars aren't made to only be enjoyed inside and while the people who review cigars on this site aren't burn line connoisseurs (despite a comment made on the Corona ¡Viva! review), we are going to point out when it has moved from beyond an aesthetic issue into a construction issue. To be quite honest, I'm admittedly the less-concerned one amongst Brooks and I on the issue, and I only really care when things are lop-sided and causing actual problems from me enjoying the cigar, not just looking bad.

 

Oftentimes there are practices that we do when we review this cigar that we know aren't going to produce the most ideal results (for example, letting cigars sit for a month before reviewing them would likely help just about everything we review), however we try best to replicate what the readers are likely to experience, as I can't imagine many of our readers smoke in a windowless room at their house with perfect ventilation that creates zero noticeable draft at the same time everyday of the week. In cases like this Viaje review, we are trying to review the cigars to inform potential buyers before they buy, which unfortunately for smoke thing like this, oftentimes means there's a bout a week before they are entirely sold-out. As such, cigars that probably should sit, don't sit. We don't rush our smoking habits or cut corners in the actual smoking, but there are sometimes signs that are a bit obvious, but at the end of the day: the cigars were shipped to be sold in that manner, and we will smoke them in that manner.

 

I imagine many of our readers smoke outside at far worse conditions than Brooks, Patrick and I are fortunate enough to smoke in and I imagine many of their cigars burn perfectly. However, I also imagine that many of our readers have similar experiences with certain cigars, including construction. I think it would be naïve and concerning for us not to mention when we have repeated problems with the same cigar, just because we weren't in the perfect environment. Particularly in cases where that same environment and plenty of arguably worse environments are able to create cigars that exhibited near flawless construction.

 

However, all that is a bit irrelevant. Even if the outdoors smoking in fair conditions is the issue and the cigar is just that sensitive to being smoked in anything but 70 degree/zero wind conditions, then that's a problem with the cigar and more importantly, one that we should definitely point out each and every time.

 

Side-bar: I don't recall any of the three days that I smoked the Samurai Maduro being particularly windy, and if I recall correctly, one day was actually pretty flat.

acigarsmokerpeter
acigarsmokerpeter

Good review, looks like a nice smoke, and hopefully some time in the humidor would take care of the burn issue.

PopAndLockness
PopAndLockness

Awesome review, as always!  Here's to hoping that a bit of aging will help solve the burn issue.

JamesHale
JamesHale

One of these days, I'll have to pick up some Viajes somewhere and see what they're all about.

kas
kas

Thanks for the review.

While I'm not a huge fan of Viaje (w/ exception of the OR Oro Reserva), these maduros are intriguing. I just wish they would curtail all the LEs and focus on some regular production cigars that are worth buying.

Lord Torso
Lord Torso

Super review.  I love the Viaje line as a whole but find it hard to get ahold of certain cigars.  Keep the reviews coming.... only way I can find out about some of them.

smoker24
smoker24

Thanks for the review.  Thanks for all the Viaje reviews.  Very helpful with the many releases in the Viaje line.

SH341
SH341

Great review, curiosity has got me on this one too.

itallushrt
itallushrt

Like others have posted I'm curious. Much more so than with the other "novelty" releases that are rampant with this brand.

Dbell
Dbell

Despite the score I am still curious, especially as a fan of the OR. 

majordan
majordan

Great review. I've been looking for a good entry into the Viaje line. This looks like it may be my chance.

JoshK
JoshK

I guess Viaje make these releases in such small batches and they sell out so quickly they don't do through a long enough cycle to resolve the burn issues?

 

Chekk12
Chekk12

I wonder how these would age.

nwbonick
nwbonick

Nice review as always. I'm surprised at the lack of sweetness - I wonder if some extra time in the humi might bring it out?

Charlie Minato
Charlie Minato moderator

Not sure on this one. Definitely don't see an extra three weeks getting to the problem, and quite frankly, it would be a bit concerning if it did.

JasonP
JasonP

Good, honest review. Thanks!

dan quintero
dan quintero

love el maduro viaje muy bueno

 

thanks!

Mike C
Mike C

Never had a Viaje and quite frankly after the reviews I've read I'd prob only smoke a freebie.

mobarbq
mobarbq

Guess that must be a common characteristic - the irregular burn. Seems like most of the cigars I've had lately do the same thing. Good review. Appreciated!

LennyM
LennyM

Boy, you guys have been reviewing a LOT of Viajes lately! Love your site, but considering I am yet to see a Viaje on a shelf anywhere, I'm waiting for a change!

Brooks
Brooks moderator

 @LennyM All of these Viajes were released at the same time, so we made the decision to review all of them at the same time, so that people could possibly still find them to buy if they wanted to...if we waited too long, they would be sold out everywhere....

Nick Holloway
Nick Holloway

Constant burn issues can ruin any cigar. Thanks for the honest review.

joshV
joshV

I was looking forward to these were hoping they would be better